query on benefits (for friend)

[Matthew.Ridges]

A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication for
it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she will
lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is terrified of
medicals.

I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety about
it or just get some advice.

Sadly I couldn't be much help

Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about what
they are planning.

Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

[nonanon]

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared
she will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be
forced off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing
her a lot of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

What benefit does she claim?

When she goes for the medical she needs to do several things:

1) BE ACCOMPANIED - and tell the independent doctor that she is anxious
in many situations and needs help going to places

2) BE MENTAL - she needs to not wash for a week and to wear dirty
clothing

3) BE MENTAL - she needs to only talk about the negative impact of her
illness, and must talk about the worst aspects. She must not talk about
her optimism for the future, or about any positive effects medication or
treatment is having.

This, as you can imagine, fucking sucks. People are forced to lie or
they face having a lot of support ripped away from them.

BUT, having said all this, it's perfectly possible for people with a
serious mental health problem to get work. Especially if your friend's
local mental health trust has 'employment specialist' following the
Sainsbury Centre for MH model of getting people back to work.

[Niteawk]

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.

Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Niteawk

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.
Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

To be fair the previous lot also was about kicking people off sickness
benefits.

A lot of people will disagree with a decision, not all of them appeal.
Appeals generally make up a few percent of the claims dealt with, at
best.

Is the benefit system due for a shake-up? Successive governments have
tried to do something with it, including your pet hate of private
providers running back to work programs.
Programs that from next April are due to get a LOT more expensive, as
they will be taking on a lot more risk.
The one thing that doesn't work so far is leaving people on benefits
until they die.

Martin <><

[Mike]

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by Niteawk

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.
Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

To be fair the previous lot also was about kicking people off sickness
benefits.
A lot of people will disagree with a decision, not all of them appeal.
Appeals generally make up a few percent of the claims dealt with, at
best.
Is the benefit system due for a shake-up? Successive governments have
tried to do something with it, including your pet hate of private
providers running back to work programs.
Programs that from next April are due to get a LOT more expensive, as
they will be taking on a lot more risk.
The one thing that doesn't work so far is leaving people on benefits
until they die.
Martin<><

Quite agree - the number of taxpayers making a positive contribution to
the economy verses those on benefits and those employed by the state (no
matter how wrothy the job) has to change.

The benefits budget grows and grows and much of it spent on disability
related benfits. Now either something is severly wrong with the health
of the nation or the thresholds for the state supporting someone as sick
or paying disability benefits are severly askew.

Every goverment I have known threatens to do something about it but none
do and I can't see a coalition, which by it's very nature is full of
comprimises, actually doing anything.

Similarly with public servants, every year more police, nurses,
teachers, civil servants etc are employed. The govement recruit them to
meet it's own beauracratic need or tragets and then has the gall to
complain as though they had nothing to do with there being too many!

I don't have a problem with shedding public sector jobs (me first!),
actual redundancies will be largely uneccessary and (too expensive) as
so many leave anyway. What I do have a problem with is when they want
fewer but the same work out of those that remain. You want fewer
beauracrats; simple have less beauracracy. The last gov created more
and more, lets see if this gov can simplify and streamline things.

Mike

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Mike

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by Niteawk

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.
Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

To be fair the previous lot also was about kicking people off sickness
benefits.
A lot of people will disagree with a decision, not all of them appeal.
Appeals generally make up a few percent of the claims dealt with, at
best.
Is the benefit system due for a shake-up? Successive governments have
tried to do something with it, including your pet hate of private
providers running back to work programs.
Programs that from next April are due to get a LOT more expensive, as
they will be taking on a lot more risk.
The one thing that doesn't work so far is leaving people on benefits
until they die.
Martin<><

Quite agree - the number of taxpayers making a positive contribution to
the economy verses those on benefits and those employed by the state (no
matter how wrothy the job) has to change.
The benefits budget grows and grows and much of it spent on disability
related benfits.  Now either something is severly wrong with the health
of the nation or the thresholds for the state supporting someone as sick
or paying disability benefits are severly askew.
Every goverment I have known threatens to do something about it but none
do and I can't see a coalition, which by it's very nature is full of
comprimises, actually doing anything.
Similarly with public servants, every year more police, nurses,
teachers, civil servants etc are employed.  The govement recruit them to
meet it's own beauracratic need or tragets and then has the gall to
complain as though they had nothing to do with there being too many!
I don't have a problem with shedding public sector jobs (me first!),
actual redundancies will be largely uneccessary and (too expensive) as
so many leave anyway.  What I do have a problem with is when they want
fewer but the same work out of those that remain.  You want fewer
beauracrats; simple have less beauracracy.  The last gov created more
and more, lets see if this gov can simplify and streamline things.
Mike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

And while jobs are shed by people leaving, in my time I noticed there
was a lot more frontline staff leaving than middle and senior
management.
Management may do stuff, I don't know, but the bit the public sees and
the bit that does the processing that the public want tend not to be
middle and senior management.
The people doing the actual work leave, everyone left has to do same
(or more) work between them, leading to delays, stress etc.
And then MPs want to know why their constituant is having delays in
getting money, ministers want assurances problems will be sorted etc.
And end result is more staff must be recruited.

Can't offhand see much reduction in beaurocracy. Even when its been
pointed out that something serves no purpose, still tends to have its
own inertia.

Coalition can be made to work, not always well though. As you say,
compromises can mean its prevented from doing.
Sometimes compromises are needed - heard today about a change in the
immigration cap, a very quick change that some would regard as
necessary. Change that perhaps wouldn't have happened under a single
party.

There was something in one of the papers about incapacity benefit and
reasons why someone cannot work. Apparently (no idea if this is true),
over a thousand people are too fat to work.

We shall see what happens over the next few years - likely to be a
while for any changes announced to be filtered through and
implemented, be even longer for some results to show up.

Martin <><

[Ben Short]

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by Niteawk

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.
Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

To be fair the previous lot also was about kicking people off sickness
benefits.
A lot of people will disagree with a decision, not all of them appeal.
Appeals generally make up a few percent of the claims dealt with, at
best.
Is the benefit system due for a shake-up? Successive governments have
tried to do something with it, including your pet hate of private
providers running back to work programs.
Programs that from next April are due to get a LOT more expensive, as
they will be taking on a lot more risk.
The one thing that doesn't work so far is leaving people on benefits
until they die.
Martin <><

So what about me for instance.

I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.

I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.

Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?

What do you honestly think?

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by Ben Short

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by Niteawk

Post by Matthew.Ridges
A friend of mine who suffers from Bi-polar disorder and is on medication
for it and is unable to work due to this severe illness and is scared she
will lose her benefits with what is being said on the news, and is
terrified of medicals.
I told her I doubt they would bother you as you suffer severe mental
illness. I said she should see the doctor maybe to discuss her anxiety
about it or just get some advice.
Sadly I couldn't be much help
Its a bit alarming what I'm also reading and hearing on the news about
what they are planning.
Was my advice wrong or right for her with regards to if she will be forced
off her benefit ? (her feelings on the matter) sadly its causing her a lot
of distress. A horrible thing this mental illness sadly.

Completely wrong advice, this new regime is about kicking people off of DLA,
IB and IS. More people than ever are failing the new medical. People with
serious illness and disabilities are declared fit for work and the change
over from the old system has not started yet. When it does all hell is going
to break loose, the system could collapse under the sheer weight of appeals
that will result.
Then consider we have a new sanctions regime for those on JSA who can also
appeal. They have increased the scope with a 1 stike rule which means you
can be sanctioned for virtually anything they can think of, like being rude
to staff or raising your voice in the JC, not following instructions to the
letter for eg, any stupid excuse they can think of basically. This is the
biggest shake up of the benefits system ever, it is going to affect everyone
who claims.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

To be fair the previous lot also was about kicking people off sickness
benefits.
A lot of people will disagree with a decision, not all of them appeal.
Appeals generally make up a few percent of the claims dealt with, at
best.
Is the benefit system due for a shake-up? Successive governments have
tried to do something with it, including your pet hate of private
providers running back to work programs.
Programs that from next April are due to get a LOT more expensive, as
they will be taking on a lot more risk.
The one thing that doesn't work so far is leaving people on benefits
until they die.
Martin  <><

So what about me for instance.
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think insufficient information about the exact criteria used by the
assessors.
As an employer though I'd hesitate to take you on as an employee.

Martin <><

[Bill]

Post by Ben Short
So what about me for instance.
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?

You ask for honesty.

Well, whilst I have sympathy for your plight I honstly cannot see why
someone suicidal is bothering to have treatment for life threatening
conditions.

Bill

[Ben Short]

Post by Bill

Post by Ben Short
So what about me for instance.
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer,
have just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am
on 50mg per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick,
and having had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin
to thin my blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?

You ask for honesty.
Well, whilst I have sympathy for your plight I honstly cannot see why
someone suicidal is bothering to have treatment for life threatening
conditions.
Bill

Well because quickly taking ones life is very different from dying slowly
from cancer.

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?

...

Now let's see...


From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009

Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.

Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, money no object so to
speak. thanks

...

From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Subject: Volvo V70 Fuse Keeps Blowing
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010

Well the problem is it keeps going. I used the lighter socket to power a
TomTom and it went. So the garage put another one in and I came to use the
TT again and it wouldn't charge it, then upon inspection I see its blown the
fuse again.
I am going to take it to the Corner Garage but wonder if anyone here could
shed any light on what may be wrong. We don't use the cigarette lighter at
all, we don't smoke. It gets used for the Tom Tom VERY occasionally, perhaps
twice a year.

There is no rust on the end of the socket although there is a tiny little
bit on the side wall of the socket, none on the lighter plug itself.

Thanks

...



Ben Short
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Date: Tue, 20 April 2010
Thanks all

Just got back off holiday and gave your suggestions a whirl.

If you remember the thread I asked about removing wax from leather shoes and
I have made a mistake putting them on. After several suggestions someone
mentioned White Spirit. So Sunday I bit the bullet and got a Microfibre and
white spirits and attacked them. After 4 tries I finally removed all the
wax. I then put them in the sink and washed them down trying to remove the
smell and left them out overnight. Today after 5 coats of brown polish they
look like new, they are just like they were when I bought them, only a
slight bit darker but they look great.

Just wanted to come back and thank you all for the help and advice you all
gave.

...



Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support

I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
I have just undergone 6 months of intensive chemotherapy. I am ill daily,
am on anti coagulants, morphine for pain and my lymphomas are growing at a slow rate.


...


J S

[Ben Short]

Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.


The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Then there's the shoes I cleaned, yeah I am not really ill, I mean ill
people don't need to look smart for consultants visits do they. Must mean I
am lying.

Oh now there's the fuse issue with the car. Yeah that must mean I don't have
cancer. I mean ill people don't change fuses in cars do they, what they do
it when the fuse blows they just stop using their cars.

Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

Just because you can search Usenet doesn't mean I am telling lies. I am
quite happy to copy my scan reports for you and post them to a webpage of
your choice.

If you knew anything at all about Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma you would quickly
realize how foolish your post was and how it has made you look. NHL is a
slow and painful death. I am stage 4 or 4, as it is both sides of my
diaphragm and now in my bones. But there again cause I went away and changes
a fuse and cleaned shoes It means I am OK doesn't it. What a moron.

Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
showing the 12 inch tumour on my stomach and the 7 inch one round my
Inferior vena cava.

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?

...
Now let's see...
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, money no object so to
speak. thanks
...
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Subject: Volvo V70 Fuse Keeps Blowing
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010
Well the problem is it keeps going. I used the lighter socket to power a
TomTom and it went. So the garage put another one in and I came to use the
TT again and it wouldn't charge it, then upon inspection I see its blown the
fuse again.
I am going to take it to the Corner Garage but wonder if anyone here could
shed any light on what may be wrong. We don't use the cigarette lighter at
all, we don't smoke. It gets used for the Tom Tom VERY occasionally, perhaps
twice a year.
There is no rust on the end of the socket although there is a tiny little
bit on the side wall of the socket, none on the lighter plug itself.
Thanks
...
Ben Short
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Date: Tue, 20 April 2010
Thanks all
Just got back off holiday and gave your suggestions a whirl.
If you remember the thread I asked about removing wax from leather shoes and
I have made a mistake putting them on. After several suggestions someone
mentioned White Spirit. So Sunday I bit the bullet and got a Microfibre and
white spirits and attacked them. After 4 tries I finally removed all the
wax. I then put them in the sink and washed them down trying to remove the
smell and left them out overnight. Today after 5 coats of brown polish they
look like new, they are just like they were when I bought them, only a
slight bit darker but they look great.
Just wanted to come back and thank you all for the help and advice you all
gave.
...
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
I have just undergone 6 months of intensive chemotherapy. I am ill daily,
am on anti coagulants, morphine for pain and my lymphomas are growing at a slow rate.
...
J S

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Pretty strong wife then

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q
ones and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

capable of breaking spades


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Pretty strong wife then

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q
ones and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

capable of breaking spades
JS

yes she is, what's your point?

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Pretty strong wife then

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q
ones and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

capable of breaking spades
JS

yes she is, what's your point?

Do you think it very fair on your wife, given that she presumably
has to care full time for you and the children, given that you're
confined to a wheelchair, to expect her to dig a garden
where the soil is so hard that it breaks a spade ?

JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Pretty strong wife then

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q
ones and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

capable of breaking spades
JS

yes she is, what's your point?

Do you think it very fair on your wife, given that she presumably
has to care full time for you and the children, given that you're
confined to a wheelchair, to expect her to dig a garden
where the soil is so hard that it breaks a spade ?
JS

What has it got to do with you what is fair and what isnt fair on my wife?
She doesnt care for me full time so thats blown that theory hasnt it.
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

"I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR"

_______________


Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support

I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)

__________________________

Post by Ben Short
All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

"I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR"

See there you go again, DID I say I was CONFINED (Just cause you like CAPS)
to a wheelchair? Err NO. And your point is?

Post by John Smith
_______________
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
__________________________

Post by Ben Short
All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

"I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR"

Did you want a rundown of when I use it?

Post by John Smith
_______________
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
__________________________

Post by Ben Short
All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

JS

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

"I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR"
_______________
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
__________________________

Post by Ben Short
All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

JS

Two of my family members are in a wheelchair. Neither is confined to a
wheelchair - they can use sticks or even shuffle along within the
house.

Martin <><

[Ben Short]

Post by m***@hotmail.com

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

"I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR"
_______________
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
__________________________

Post by Ben Short
All presumptions and guesses made by someone who doesnt know me, or my
condition and yet feels he can now speak on my wifes behalf. PMSL

JS

Two of my family members are in a wheelchair. Neither is confined to a
wheelchair - they can use sticks or even shuffle along within the
house.
Martin <><

Well I hope for their sake they don't go out for coffee, far too dangerous

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.
Then there's the shoes I cleaned, yeah I am not really ill, I mean ill
people don't need to look smart for consultants visits do they. Must mean I
am lying.

Nobody has actually accused you of lying, have they ?

All I've done is reproduce some of your other posts.

What can be so objectionable about that ?

As it happens with the last consultant I saw, I was naked below
the waste save the gown that was provided in the changing cubicle
beforehand. In any case I very much doubt that any consultant would
pay any attention to a patients shoes, either way.

Post by Ben Short
Oh now there's the fuse issue with the car. Yeah that must mean I don't have
cancer. I mean ill people don't change fuses in cars do they, what they do
it when the fuse blows they just stop using their cars.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.
Just because you can search Usenet doesn't mean I am telling lies. I am
quite happy to copy my scan reports for you and post them to a webpage of
your choice.
If you knew anything at all about Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma you would quickly
realize how foolish your post was and how it has made you look. NHL is a
slow and painful death. I am stage 4 or 4, as it is both sides of my
diaphragm and now in my bones. But there again cause I went away and changes
a fuse and cleaned shoes It means I am OK doesn't it. What a moron.

Do you really think using words such a "dickhead" and "moron"
are very helpful in this context ?

Post by Ben Short
Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
showing the 12 inch tumour on my stomach and the 7 inch one round my
Inferior vena cava.

And I can post certificates proving I've got six First Class Degrees
from various Oxford Colleges and a Birth Certificate proving that I'm
actually Phillip Mountbatten latterly HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.
Then there's the shoes I cleaned, yeah I am not really ill, I mean ill
people don't need to look smart for consultants visits do they. Must mean I
am lying.

Nobody has actually accused you of lying, have they ?

Yes you have, by reposting some of my earlier threads you are making some
kind of feeble attempt to make out I am not ill, why other wise would you
have posted it.

Post by John Smith
All I've done is reproduce some of your other posts.

yes we know and to prove what exactly.?

Post by John Smith
What can be so objectionable about that ?

You and everyone else reading this knows why you posted it. It has just
shown you for what you are

Post by John Smith
As it happens with the last consultant I saw, I was naked below
the waste save the gown that was provided in the changing cubicle
beforehand. In any case I very much doubt that any consultant would
pay any attention to a patients shoes, either way.

Well obviously my standards are higher than yours. I like to dress smart,
you perhaps prefer Nylon

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Oh now there's the fuse issue with the car. Yeah that must mean I don't have
cancer. I mean ill people don't change fuses in cars do they, what they do
it when the fuse blows they just stop using their cars.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.
Just because you can search Usenet doesn't mean I am telling lies. I am
quite happy to copy my scan reports for you and post them to a webpage of
your choice.
If you knew anything at all about Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma you would quickly
realize how foolish your post was and how it has made you look. NHL is a
slow and painful death. I am stage 4 or 4, as it is both sides of my
diaphragm and now in my bones. But there again cause I went away and changes
a fuse and cleaned shoes It means I am OK doesn't it. What a moron.

Do you really think using words such a "dickhead" and "moron"
are very helpful in this context ?

Post by Ben Short
Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
showing the 12 inch tumour on my stomach and the 7 inch one round my
Inferior vena cava.

And I can post certificates proving I've got six First Class Degrees
from various Oxford Colleges and a Birth Certificate proving that I'm
actually Phillip Mountbatten latterly HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.

Well mine are legit, you cant get these type of scan reports online.

Whatever you were attempting to do you failed. Least we know what kind pf
person you are now dont we. How very sad

Post by John Smith
JS

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Well mine are legit, you cant get these type of scan reports online.

Because there are none online, as you say, and various
Health Authorities probably use different formats nobody
is in any position to judge whether what you produce
is genuine or not. It might just as easily be the result
of ten minutes spent Googling and ten minutes spent with
Microsoft Word.

Post by Ben Short
Whatever you were attempting to do you failed. Least we
know what kind pf person you are now dont we. How very sad

"We" ?

I'm a person that's come into contact with more than one person
with a terminal illness.

None of them worried about digging up the garden, none of them
worried whether their window frames would look good in few years
time following an application of T Cut. None of them worried
whether there was a waxy look to their shoes or not. None
of them was worried about "impressing" anyone, least of all
a Hospital Consultant.

Yet that's the person you are.

Furthermore none of them publicised the potential seriousness
of their condition, for fear their children or other relatives
outside a chosen few might find out inadvertantly. And distress
themselves more than was absolutely necessary.

And yet that's the person you are.


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Well mine are legit, you cant get these type of scan reports online.

Because there are none online, as you say, and various
Health Authorities probably use different formats nobody
is in any position to judge whether what you produce
is genuine or not. It might just as easily be the result
of ten minutes spent Googling and ten minutes spent with
Microsoft Word.

Yeah, and it might not. I dont think I would go to the trouble to convince
you, who are you again?>

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Whatever you were attempting to do you failed. Least we
know what kind pf person you are now dont we. How very sad

"We" ?

yea like WE,

Post by John Smith
I'm a person that's come into contact with more than one person
with a terminal illness.

Wow Brilliant, Thats just great

Post by John Smith
None of them worried about digging up the garden, none of them
worried whether their window frames would look good in few years
time following an application of T Cut. None of them worried
whether there was a waxy look to their shoes or not. None
of them was worried about "impressing" anyone, least of all
a Hospital Consultant.

Well that's where I am different. I dont want my wife to struggle when I'm
gone, with spades or cleaning windows. Forgive me. I was treying to
eliminate a few problems she was having, but you dont need to know that now
do you?

As for the shoes, well lets just say I like to dress nicely, dying or not.
It isnt a crime. You are just making another assumption that I am trying to
impress anyone. It's just respect. Not that I could teach you that. I should
just go out unkempt shouldn't I, would that be OK with you or is it OK to
clean my shoes and apply wax. Given I am dying why bother eh?

Post by John Smith
Yet that's the person you are.
Furthermore none of them publicised the potential seriousness
of their condition, for fear their children or other relatives
outside a chosen few might find out inadvertantly. And distress
themselves more than was absolutely necessary.
And yet that's the person you are.

I have told everyone I wanted to tell, but thanks for the concern for their
welfare all the same. Kind of making assumptions again arent you. Is this
following a pettern?
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives? What makes you think I give a shit what you think?
How do you know none of them did? Just the same as I said WE. You dont do
you?. Or have you searched every NG and Forum known to man, surely not
another assumption from you. No couldn't be.

I asked for help and you tried to look like the smart arse by posting my
messages, backfired a bit didn't it?. Oh dear, trying to cover your tracks
now and limit the damage to your usenet facade. And you have proved what?
Fuck all. What a loser.
I dont intend to spend my last remaining time talking to your sorry ass.
What this thread has shown is when you try and be a smart arse and it
backfires, just throw assumptions at it. Waiting for baited breathe for your
comeback

Post by John Smith
JS

[John Smith]

"Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote in message news:i0ivgk$a2f$***@news.eternal-september.org...
ou. No couldn't be.

Post by Ben Short
I asked for help and you tried to look like the smart arse by posting my
messages, backfired a bit didn't it?. Oh dear, trying to cover your tracks
now and limit the damage to your usenet facade. And you have proved what?
Fuck all. What a loser.

________


UK D-I-Y 13-02-2010 01:32 AM

Post by Ben Short
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben

____________

While just 3 months later having moved house while confined to a wheelchair
and suffering from a terminal illness -

_______________

UK D-I-Y 05-03-2010, 06:55 PM

On May 3, 7:55 pm, "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote:

I have some very dirty window frames on *my new house*. I have tried bleach
and it was no good, CIF was OK but hard work, I then tried T-CUT and it was
superb, much easier and made them look super.

Is there any long term problems known with using TCUT? I will make sure once
they are clean I wax them with Collinite 476 or Mer Polish after they have
been cleaned.

MY NEW HOUSE
__________


On INCOME SUPPORT and yet -

Collinite 476 Mer polish etc plus
___________________________


From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009

Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.

Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, *money no object* so to
speak. thanks

________________

MONEY NO OBJECT




JS

[Ben Short]

Post by Ben Short
ou. No couldn't be.

Post by Ben Short
I asked for help and you tried to look like the smart arse by posting my
messages, backfired a bit didn't it?. Oh dear, trying to cover your tracks
now and limit the damage to your usenet facade. And you have proved what?
Fuck all. What a loser.

________
UK D-I-Y 13-02-2010 01:32 AM

Post by Ben Short
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben

____________
While just 3 months later having moved house while confined to a wheelchair
and suffering from a terminal illness -

Yes that is right. WOW someone who is ill actually moved house. OMG Call the
police. I know, I know it shouldnt be allowed. Why should I move into a
adapted house. OMG It is soooo wrong isnt it.

Post by Ben Short
_______________
UK D-I-Y 05-03-2010, 06:55 PM
I have some very dirty window frames on *my new house*. I have tried bleach
and it was no good, CIF was OK but hard work, I then tried T-CUT and it was
superb, much easier and made them look super.
Is there any long term problems known with using TCUT? I will make sure once
they are clean I wax them with Collinite 476 or Mer Polish after they have
been cleaned.
MY NEW HOUSE
__________

Yes MY NEW HOUSE, new to me, or do you call a pre lived in house a "second
hand house" where you come from?. YES I MOVED GET OVER IT. I should have
added "New To Me" at the bottom for thick people.

Post by Ben Short
On INCOME SUPPORT and yet -
Collinite 476 Mer polish etc plus
___________________________
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, *money no object* so to
speak. thanks
________________
MONEY NO OBJECT

Absolutely MONEY NO OBJECT. My father said he would buy it. Should I have
declared that he bought me a spade. He went further and got a FORK TOO. I
shall declare it tomorrow, promise.

And your point again is what?

Post by Ben Short
JS

[John Smith]

Why should I move into a adapted house. OMG It is soooo wrong isnt it.

__________________


According to you it is.


"Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote in message news:i0iuqb$411$***@news.eternal-september.org...

I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.

______________________


As a matter of interest were the windows "specially adapted" to enable you
treat them with the Collinite 476 - among the most expensive brands of auto
polish - as you were intending to do ? Following your treating them with the
T Cut ?

The surprising thing being perhaps that in this "specially adapted" house
of yours you were expected to do all this work for yourself. Didn't this fact
in itself raise some eyebrows among those supplying the accomodation ? And not
only that but spending all this money on these expensive materials while
being on Income Support.

___________________________

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, *money no object* so to
speak. thanks
________________
MONEY NO OBJECT

Absolutely MONEY NO OBJECT. My father said he would buy it. Should I have
declared that he bought me a spade. He went further and got a FORK TOO. I
shall declare it tomorrow, promise.

Ah. So rather than ask for the best value its MONEY NO OBJECT when it comes to
spending other people's money then, is it ? Did he pay for the Sat Nav
the T-Cut, and the Collinite 476 as well then ? Presumably that was a top of
the range Sat Nav, as well.


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Why should I move into a adapted house. OMG It is soooo wrong isnt it.

__________________
According to you it is.

Yes soo wrong PMSL

Post by John Smith
I am not confined to a wheelchair, so thats blown that one too.
______________________
As a matter of interest were the windows "specially adapted" to enable you
treat them with the Collinite 476 - among the most expensive brands of auto
polish - as you were intending to do ? Following your treating them with the
T Cut ?
The surprising thing being perhaps that in this "specially adapted" house
of yours you were expected to do all this work for yourself. Didn't this fact
in itself raise some eyebrows among those supplying the accomodation ? And not
only that but spending all this money on these expensive materials while
being on Income Support.

Yeah Collinite 476 is so expensive, £9 for a 500 ml tin, lasts 12 months.
What I should have done is checked with you first.
Unfortunately they#re not specially adapted, just in need of a clean. But
thanks for the concern.

Not all just some of it, perhaps what I WANT to do. hell really pushing to
boat out now aren't I.
Yeah I mean £9 for Collinite and £3 for T Cut is a absolute discrace on
INCOME SUPPORT isnt it. OMG

Post by John Smith
___________________________

Post by John Smith
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, *money no object*
so
to
speak. thanks
________________
MONEY NO OBJECT

Absolutely MONEY NO OBJECT. My father said he would buy it. Should I have
declared that he bought me a spade. He went further and got a FORK TOO. I
shall declare it tomorrow, promise.

Ah. So rather than ask for the best value its MONEY NO OBJECT when it comes to
spending other people's money then, is it ? Did he pay for the Sat Nav
the T-Cut, and the Collinite 476 as well then ? Presumably that was a top of
the range Sat Nav, as well.
JS

Well when he said, "MONEY NO OBJECT" I took it to mean, MONEY NO OBJECT. he
owes me anyway, he forgot my chololate rabbit at easter THE BASTARD.
Yes he did in fact. And yes it was a top of the range one. Should I call the
cops or do you want to?

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Yes soo wrong PMSL

Oh what a remarkably quick recovery. And from only yesterday.
__________________________________

"Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote in message news:i0e45v$ikt$***@news.eternal-september.org...

I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.

Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?

______________________________________


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Yes soo wrong PMSL

Oh what a remarkably quick recovery. And from only yesterday.

WTF ARe you talking about now?

Post by John Smith
__________________________________
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
______________________________________
JS

[Ben Short]

Post by Ben Short
ou. No couldn't be.

Post by Ben Short
I asked for help and you tried to look like the smart arse by posting my
messages, backfired a bit didn't it?. Oh dear, trying to cover your tracks
now and limit the damage to your usenet facade. And you have proved what?
Fuck all. What a loser.

________
UK D-I-Y 13-02-2010 01:32 AM

Post by Ben Short
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben

____________
While just 3 months later having moved house while confined to a wheelchair
and suffering from a terminal illness -
_______________
UK D-I-Y 05-03-2010, 06:55 PM
I have some very dirty window frames on *my new house*. I have tried bleach
and it was no good, CIF was OK but hard work, I then tried T-CUT and it was
superb, much easier and made them look super.
Is there any long term problems known with using TCUT? I will make sure once
they are clean I wax them with Collinite 476 or Mer Polish after they have
been cleaned.
MY NEW HOUSE
__________
On INCOME SUPPORT and yet -
Collinite 476 Mer polish etc plus
___________________________
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, *money no object* so to
speak. thanks
________________
MONEY NO OBJECT
JS

Oh, sorry forgot to tell you. I have just been asking about railway sleepers
too, just to try and help the wife before I die with the garden. Is that OK
with you? Now I need your permission and all that. heaven forbid, what am I
doing? I should be dressed in rags, foaming at the mouth, what was I
thinking?

[Ben Short]

Silly Me, You are just one of those people who don't like folk like me on
benefits. Ahh I get it now. We are all on the blag. Not really dying. You
know I just told Income Support I was dying and guess what? They bought it.
I didnt need to show any evidence at all. Were all just scoundrels arent we
while you pay for us. OMG So Sorry.

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives?

You just did.

_____________________________

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

_______________________________


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives?

You just did.

Yeah You got me. I am not all alone in the world. A mother brought me into
the world and I have a father too. Shit. I did tell them about my cancer
before I told you. Fuck I'll know better next time. Sorry

Post by John Smith
_____________________________

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

_______________________________
JS

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives?

You just did.

Yeah You got me. I am not all alone in the world. A mother brought me into
the world and I have a father too. Shit. I did tell them about my cancer
before I told you. Fuck I'll know better next time. Sorry

No, I'm talking about the children you'd forgotten you mentioned before.

It helps if you can keep your story straight.

You readily resort to words like "Fuck", and "shit", but you claim you like
to impress this Consultant of yours by having a nice shiny pair of shoes.
But surely you give away your true nature, immediately you open your mouth ?


JS

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
_____________________________

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

_______________________________
JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives?

You just did.

Yeah You got me. I am not all alone in the world. A mother brought me into
the world and I have a father too. Shit. I did tell them about my cancer
before I told you. Fuck I'll know better next time. Sorry

No, I'm talking about the children you'd forgotten you mentioned before.
It helps if you can keep your story straight.
You readily resort to words like "Fuck", and "shit", but you claim you like
to impress this Consultant of yours by having a nice shiny pair of shoes.
But surely you give away your true nature, immediately you open your mouth ?
JS

Post by Ben Short

Post by John Smith
_____________________________

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

_______________________________
JS

What and you didn't by posting all my previous threads, get over yourself. I
do have children so fucking what. What THAT has to do with you I dont know.
Thankfully they are old enough and wise enough to know the truth. As for my
language so what is your point exactly? A person who swears can't be
professional in the company of a Consultant. Do you honestly know how
imature you sound? I try not to swear in front of him but the odd FUCK and
Shit does come out. Oh there I go again.

[Ben Short]

What this thread has clearly show is that you have a problem with people on
benefits and you were attempting to show me up by posting my previous posts,
where I asked about Car wax, cleaning window and spades. Anyone can search
my previous posts, it hides nothing.What that proves God only knows, other
than in your tiny mind you think just because I asked about a few products I
was either not ill or a benefit cheat. It's one thing being a benefit hater
but another thing being shown up as a knob head.

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
What this thread has clearly show is that you have a problem with people on
benefits and you were attempting to show me up by posting my previous posts,
where I asked about Car wax, cleaning window and spades. Anyone can search
my previous posts, it hides nothing.What that proves God only knows, other
than in your tiny mind you think just because I asked about a few products I
was either not ill or a benefit cheat. It's one thing being a benefit hater
but another thing being shown up as a knob head.

When I read your first post* in this thread, I honestly believed that you were
quoting from an article in a newspaper. I expected a follow-up post along the
lines of -

"He did what he said he was going to do. He swallowed a whole bottle of morphine
when he failed the DLA Assessment. You can read about it here - "
with a link to an article in the "Guardian" newspapaper maybe.

And there was nothing wrong with that. A good rhetorical way of bringing home
your point.

Fool that I was, I even wasted ten minutes trying to find the original story.

Failing that - maybe this actually is you yourself you're talking about? So have
you posted on this topic before - to a support group for instance ?
Best to be sure, before maybe putting my foot in it.

Er no. You've posted on quite a few topics, but none of them mentioning
this supposed "condition" of yours. All except the one that is, which you seemed
to have forgotten all about. Your only other post to this NewsGroup, in which
you claimed to be in a wheelchair.

And yet when I happened to mention that you were "confined to a wheelchair", rather
than simply correct me and say " I only said I was *in* a wheelchair before", you'd
forgotten all about that previous post. You'd forgotten you'd ever made any previous
mention of wheelchairs at all. When presumably there would be one in the
room there beside you.

You're not a very successful liar, are you ?

As to your being a "benefit cheat". Why should anyone believe you're on benefits
at all ? Up until yesterday you'd only ever posted twice in this Newsgroup. So
that despite supposedly qualifying for these various benefits, benefits clearly
haven't played as big a part in your life as have questions about what to put
on your window frames. Or how to charge your sat-nav.

And yet for many people, benefits can be quite complicated and there are plenty
of questions they'd like to ask. And maybe experiences and advice they'd like
to share. But not you apparently.

Your only problems in life, the things you need to ask advice about, appear to involve
gardening tools, sat-navs, and what type of car polish to put on your window frames.

So much for your being a "benefit cheat". A supposed benefit "cheat" who's been
diagnosed with terminal cancer as can be easily verified by their current medical
records. As you claim to have been. How can that possibly be classed as "cheating"?

Don't you realise just how utterly stupid you sound ?

And please don't for one minute imagine that anyone would believe that you only ever
post as "Ben Short". And that you've only ever made just the dozen or so posts
to UseNet.

Basically you're a very poor liar, who's been caught out. As your easy recourse to
phrases such as "knobhead" above, more than amply demonstrates.

You and your kind are parasites, pure and simple. People who lead such empty
and meaningless lives that the only pleasure they can get is by preying on the trust
and good nature of the majority of posters on UseNet. By trying to lead them up the
garden path.

Except that you can't even manage that much. You're as much of an abject failure in
that regard, as you probably are in everything else.

Even as potential "benefit cheat", I've no doubts that any half-way competent
interviewer would see through your tissue of lies, half truths and evasions
within minutes, and terminate the interview there and then.

On this current showing, you wouldn't even manage to get that far, my friend.



JS

*

_________________________________________________________________________

"Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote in message news:i0e45v$ikt$***@news.eternal-september.org...

So what about me for instance.

I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.

have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.

Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?

What do you honestly think?

_______________________________________________________________________________

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
What this thread has clearly show is that you have a problem with people on
benefits and you were attempting to show me up by posting my previous posts,
where I asked about Car wax, cleaning window and spades. Anyone can search
my previous posts, it hides nothing.What that proves God only knows, other
than in your tiny mind you think just because I asked about a few products I
was either not ill or a benefit cheat. It's one thing being a benefit hater
but another thing being shown up as a knob head.

When I read your first post* in this thread, I honestly believed that you were
quoting from an article in a newspaper. I expected a follow-up post along the
lines of -
"He did what he said he was going to do. He swallowed a whole bottle of morphine
when he failed the DLA Assessment. You can read about it here - "
with a link to an article in the "Guardian" newspapaper maybe.
And there was nothing wrong with that. A good rhetorical way of bringing home
your point.
Fool that I was, I even wasted ten minutes trying to find the original story.
Failing that - maybe this actually is you yourself you're talking about? So have
you posted on this topic before - to a support group for instance ?
Best to be sure, before maybe putting my foot in it.

Yes I have posted quite a few messages. I try not to give my real name out
on Usenet because of knobheads.I am actually BEN LONG What I also try to do
is ask the Consultants advice, fool that I am, rather than on support forums
for Aspergers Sufferers who are cancer sufferers, you never know I could
bump into a moron like you who frequents groups helping people like you do
LOL. These groups are quite rare. So wrong again. This really is becoming an
habbit of yours isnt it. Next you'll be telling me you have searched EVERY
cancer and support forum and found all my posts. And you think I am sad. OMG
LOL

Post by John Smith
Er no. You've posted on quite a few topics, but none of them mentioning
this supposed "condition" of yours. All except the one that is, which you seemed
to have forgotten all about. Your only other post to this NewsGroup, in which
you claimed to be in a wheelchair.

So when I posted this on the 22nd March, and I quote "
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an

indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have

cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma

low grade)

I saw on the news about this new Employment and Support allowance and wonder
?if they will take me off my IS and make me have this benefit and interview
?me with regards to work. I have just undergone 6 months of intensive
?chemotherapy. I am ill daily, am on anti coagulants, morphine for pain and
?my lymphomas are growing at a slow rate.

Will I be tested? What will happen?

Thanks Ben



Oh Silly me and THIS TOO IN FEBRUARY



"

Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come

and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do

a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs

re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can

recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.

Thanks Ben"



I dont suppose they count in your book do they. FAILED AGAIN, this really is
a bad habit of your being proved WRONG.

Post by John Smith
And yet when I happened to mention that you were "confined to a wheelchair", rather
than simply correct me and say " I only said I was *in* a wheelchair before", you'd
forgotten all about that previous post. You'd forgotten you'd ever made any previous
mention of wheelchairs at all. When presumably there would be one in the
room there beside you.

I had forgotten about nothing halfwit. On Chemo I was confined. I am now in
a wheelchair but not confined to it. Would you like me to explain to you in
simple terms what CONFINED means. I'll do it S L O W L Y so you can
understand HONEST?

Post by John Smith
You're not a very successful liar, are you ?

And you're the one claiming I am with no evidence. LMAO

Post by John Smith
As to your being a "benefit cheat". Why should anyone believe you're on benefits
at all ? Up until yesterday you'd only ever posted twice in this Newsgroup. So
that despite supposedly qualifying for these various benefits, benefits clearly
haven't played as big a part in your life as have questions about what to put
on your window frames. Or how to charge your sat-nav.

Thats right. Ahh so everyone on benefits posts to this group. Oh I get it. I
should have known that. Ahhh I get it so everyone who is in receipt of
benefits posts on here. Right.... Are you on medication? Oh but there again
look at my MARCH POST, I clearly state I am on INCOME SUPPORT. BANG GOES
ANOTHER OF YOUR THEORIES. LMAO. I will ensure I tell the JC as I am not sure
they're aware. I mean everyone on benefits posts for help here.

Post by John Smith
And yet for many people, benefits can be quite complicated and there are plenty
of questions they'd like to ask. And maybe experiences and advice they'd like
to share. But not you apparently.

Yea they dont bother asking at the JC do they, they all come on here and
ask. HALFWIT

Post by John Smith
Your only problems in life, the things you need to ask advice about, appear to involve
gardening tools, sat-navs, and what type of car polish to put on your window frames.

Yup making sure my wife has no problems with the garden and she
can get about in our car without getting lost. Just some of the priorities I
have before I go. Fool that I am. I should be out fucking $5 hookers
shouldnt I? I mean I am dying who cares about the wife right?

Post by John Smith
So much for your being a "benefit cheat". A supposed benefit "cheat" who's been
diagnosed with terminal cancer as can be easily verified by their current medical
records. As you claim to have been. How can that possibly be classed as "cheating"?

So why the original post then halfwit if that wasnt your intention. FFS

Post by John Smith
Don't you realise just how utterly stupid you sound ?

Compared to you I sound like Albert Fucking Einstein

Post by John Smith
And please don't for one minute imagine that anyone would believe that you only ever
post as "Ben Short". And that you've only ever made just the dozen or so posts
to UseNet.

Your right I dont, says the man with only 1 thread to his name. LOL

Post by John Smith
Basically you're a very poor liar, who's been caught out. As your easy recourse to
phrases such as "knobhead" above, more than amply demonstrates.

If you point out where I have been lying I am more than prepared to defend
myself in any court of your choice. I dont have to lie to morons like you on
Usenet. Still waiting for that website so I can send you my scan results.

Post by John Smith
You and your kind are parasites, pure and simple. People who lead such empty
and meaningless lives that the only pleasure they can get is by preying on the trust
and good nature of the majority of posters on UseNet. By trying to lead them up the
garden path.

Says the guy who has just trawled through every post I have made to USENET
to try and make out that I am not ill as I said I was. I have offered proof
but you shyed away from that one didnt you, kinda made you look STUUUUPID
didnt it. AND I AM A PARASITE with an empty meaningless life PMSL. Ok yeah
whatever you say johnny

Post by John Smith
Except that you can't even manage that much. You're as much of an abject failure in
that regard, as you probably are in everything else.

Yup failed my entire life. I never was good at brain surgery. Damn

Post by John Smith
Even as potential "benefit cheat", I've no doubts that any half-way competent
interviewer would see through your tissue of lies, half truths and evasions
within minutes, and terminate the interview there and then.

Yea you;re probably right, Oh hang on do you now think I AM on benefits as
just a few sentenses ago you said I wasnt. Its make your mind up time moron

Post by John Smith
On this current showing, you wouldn't even manage to get that far, my friend.

Hey I may be a liar and crap in bed but your friend I aint.

Post by John Smith
JS
*

Was that a kiss at the bottom?

Post by John Smith
_________________________________________________________________________
So what about me for instance.
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?
_______________________________________________________________________________

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Oh Silly me and THIS TOO IN FEBRUARY
"
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben"

And yet quite capable of laying railway sleepers in June -

_______________________________________________________________


From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Sleepers
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:38:57 +0100


I need to make a raised bed in the garden, just three sides as one side will
be against the concrete fence.

My wife wants the sleepers to be stood on their small side so that the
sleepers will be 8 inches high. They are 8 foot long, by 4 inches front to
back and 8 inches high. She wasn't two of these tall. So in effect the
sleepers will be 16 inches tall. Now, I can get long enough screws to go
into these, the bolt kind from Screwfix, but they will only penetrate the
bottom sleeper by 5 cm. Is it OK to Grip fill the sleepers together or
should I allow them movement. It will be retaining shrubs and perhaps a tree
at some point, albeit small at first. It is just if I sink, perhaps, 6 bolts
into each sleeper straight through the top one 8 inches and then 5 cm to the
bottom one I don't want movement and wondered if spreading GF along the
length will help to keep the two sleepers together.

Also is it OK to bed the sleepers (bottom one) on some concrete so it
doesn't move. i.e., dig a trough all the 3 sides, fill with concrete and
sink then in perhaps 2 inches deep to give them a good base.? Or is there a
better way?

I bought the sleepers Cost £210 delivered for 10 x 8 foot new sleepers. The
local wood man wanted £1000 to put them together, 24 foot across by the two
ends 4 foot, 2 high. I think this is a lot for a few hours work.

I am a complete novice so if there is another way Laymans terms please :)

_____________________________________________________________________________


PLEASE NOTE the " I AM COMPLETE NOVICE " there. In other words you intend to do
this work yourself rather than pay the local man £1000. As you were prepared to
do with the windows in February. Owing there, so you claim, to your disability.
Rather than simply to the fact you simply messed it up.

So you've already laid out £210 on these railway sleepers which have been
delivered and are presumably sitting in your garden. This £210 presumably
being out of income support.

You're not prepared to pay a local man £1000 to do the work but intend
to do it yourself.

This being in specially adapted accommodation. So you claim. Where the people
providing the accomodation, as with your dirty window frames, might be expected
to take care of such things. In fact where they are obliged to take care of
such things.

And yet you never thought to enquire about that.


JS

[m***@hotmail.com]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Oh Silly me and THIS TOO IN FEBRUARY
 "
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben"

And yet quite capable of laying railway sleepers in June -
_______________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Sleepers
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:38:57 +0100
I need to make a raised bed in the garden, just three sides as one side will
be against the concrete fence.
My wife wants the sleepers to be stood on their small side so that the
sleepers will be 8 inches high. They are 8 foot long, by 4 inches front to
back and 8 inches high. She wasn't two of these tall. So in effect the
sleepers will be 16 inches tall. Now, I can get long enough screws to go
into these, the bolt kind from Screwfix, but they will only penetrate the
bottom sleeper by 5 cm. Is it OK to Grip fill the sleepers together or
should I allow them movement. It will be retaining shrubs and perhaps a tree
at some point, albeit small at first. It is just if I sink, perhaps, 6 bolts
into each sleeper straight through the top one 8 inches and then 5 cm to the
bottom one I don't want movement and wondered if spreading GF along the
length will help to keep the two sleepers together.
Also is it OK to bed the sleepers (bottom one) on some concrete so it
doesn't move. i.e., dig a trough all the 3 sides, fill with concrete and
sink then in perhaps 2 inches deep to give them a good base.? Or is there a
better way?
I bought the sleepers Cost 210 delivered for 10 x 8 foot new sleepers. The
local wood man wanted 1000 to put them together, 24 foot across by the two
ends 4 foot, 2 high. I think this is a lot for a few hours work.
I am a complete novice so if there is another way Laymans terms please :)
___________________________________________________________________________­__
PLEASE NOTE the " I AM COMPLETE NOVICE " there. In other words you intend to do
this work yourself rather than pay the local man 1000. As you were prepared to
do with the windows in February. Owing there, so you claim, to your disability.
Rather than simply to the fact you simply messed it up.
So you've already laid out 210 on these railway sleepers which have been
delivered and are presumably sitting in your garden. This 210 presumably
being out of income support.
You're not prepared to pay a local man 1000 to do the work but intend
to do it yourself.
This being in specially adapted accommodation. So you claim. Where the people
providing the accomodation, as with your dirty window frames, might be expected
to take care of such things. In fact where they are obliged to take care of
such things.
And yet you never thought to enquire about that.
JS- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

£210 out of income support isn't too bad. Finding another grand can be
harder.
Getting things done in specially adapted accomodation can be fun,
provided you rent. Landlord can take their own sweet time about non-
essentials.
If you own, up to you to arrange with relevant council department or
pay yourself.....

Wood of that size is fun to install, not the heaviest of items. Used
something similar in our back garden, took a long weekend to do whole
job while also being on call.

Martin <><

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Oh Silly me and THIS TOO IN FEBRUARY
"
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben"

And yet quite capable of laying railway sleepers in June -
_______________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Sleepers
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:38:57 +0100
I need to make a raised bed in the garden, just three sides as one side will
be against the concrete fence.
My wife wants the sleepers to be stood on their small side so that the
sleepers will be 8 inches high. They are 8 foot long, by 4 inches front to
back and 8 inches high. She wasn't two of these tall. So in effect the
sleepers will be 16 inches tall. Now, I can get long enough screws to go
into these, the bolt kind from Screwfix, but they will only penetrate the
bottom sleeper by 5 cm. Is it OK to Grip fill the sleepers together or
should I allow them movement. It will be retaining shrubs and perhaps a tree
at some point, albeit small at first. It is just if I sink, perhaps, 6 bolts
into each sleeper straight through the top one 8 inches and then 5 cm to the
bottom one I don't want movement and wondered if spreading GF along the
length will help to keep the two sleepers together.
Also is it OK to bed the sleepers (bottom one) on some concrete so it
doesn't move. i.e., dig a trough all the 3 sides, fill with concrete and
sink then in perhaps 2 inches deep to give them a good base.? Or is there a
better way?
I bought the sleepers Cost £210 delivered for 10 x 8 foot new sleepers. The
local wood man wanted £1000 to put them together, 24 foot across by the two
ends 4 foot, 2 high. I think this is a lot for a few hours work.
I am a complete novice so if there is another way Laymans terms please :)
_____________________________________________________________________________
PLEASE NOTE the " I AM COMPLETE NOVICE " there. In other words you intend to do
this work yourself rather than pay the local man £1000. As you were prepared to
do with the windows in February. Owing there, so you claim, to your disability.
Rather than simply to the fact you simply messed it up.
So you've already laid out £210 on these railway sleepers which have been
delivered and are presumably sitting in your garden. This £210 presumably
being out of income support.
You're not prepared to pay a local man £1000 to do the work but intend
to do it yourself.
This being in specially adapted accommodation. So you claim. Where the people
providing the accomodation, as with your dirty window frames, might be expected
to take care of such things. In fact where they are obliged to take care of
such things.
And yet you never thought to enquire about that.
JS

Yup putting in some raised beds. The wife and father are doing the work, I
was going to watch or perhaps help them, havent made my mid up
yet/...........Problem?

[Ben Short]

Hey just think, YOU paid for these sleepers from my income support, or
perhaps someone bought them, who knows, you never will that s for sure LMAO

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Oh Silly me and THIS TOO IN FEBRUARY
"
Can anyone recommend someone in the Preston, Lancashire area that could come
and remove all the old silicone from around my windows and replace it and do
a good job. I have made a terrible mess of it 2 years ago and it needs
re-doing. I am disabled now and unable to do it myself so if anyone can
recommend a company I will gladly pay the going rate for it.
Thanks Ben"

And yet quite capable of laying railway sleepers in June -
_______________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Sleepers
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:38:57 +0100
I need to make a raised bed in the garden, just three sides as one side will
be against the concrete fence.
My wife wants the sleepers to be stood on their small side so that the
sleepers will be 8 inches high. They are 8 foot long, by 4 inches front to
back and 8 inches high. She wasn't two of these tall. So in effect the
sleepers will be 16 inches tall. Now, I can get long enough screws to go
into these, the bolt kind from Screwfix, but they will only penetrate the
bottom sleeper by 5 cm. Is it OK to Grip fill the sleepers together or
should I allow them movement. It will be retaining shrubs and perhaps a tree
at some point, albeit small at first. It is just if I sink, perhaps, 6 bolts
into each sleeper straight through the top one 8 inches and then 5 cm to the
bottom one I don't want movement and wondered if spreading GF along the
length will help to keep the two sleepers together.
Also is it OK to bed the sleepers (bottom one) on some concrete so it
doesn't move. i.e., dig a trough all the 3 sides, fill with concrete and
sink then in perhaps 2 inches deep to give them a good base.? Or is there a
better way?
I bought the sleepers Cost £210 delivered for 10 x 8 foot new sleepers. The
local wood man wanted £1000 to put them together, 24 foot across by the two
ends 4 foot, 2 high. I think this is a lot for a few hours work.
I am a complete novice so if there is another way Laymans terms please :)
_____________________________________________________________________________
PLEASE NOTE the " I AM COMPLETE NOVICE " there. In other words you intend to do
this work yourself rather than pay the local man £1000. As you were prepared to
do with the windows in February. Owing there, so you claim, to your disability.
Rather than simply to the fact you simply messed it up.
So you've already laid out £210 on these railway sleepers which have been
delivered and are presumably sitting in your garden. This £210 presumably
being out of income support.
You're not prepared to pay a local man £1000 to do the work but intend
to do it yourself.
This being in specially adapted accommodation. So you claim. Where the people
providing the accomodation, as with your dirty window frames, might be expected
to take care of such things. In fact where they are obliged to take care of
such things.
And yet you never thought to enquire about that.
JS

[Ben Short]

For the halfwit

"Confined" , This is when you are in a chair 24/7, I would say apart from
when you're in bed.

"In a wheelchair", this could have lots of implications, one being that when
you go out you use a wheelchair.

I was going to post the dictionary defenition for you but I fear it would
confuse you.

Have we got it yet?

Have I gone too fast for you?

Do you need more time letting it sink in?

Are you back at playschool Monday>

[Clive Martin]

In message <***@mid.individual.net>, John Smith
<***@onetel.net.uk> writes
<SNIP>

Post by John Smith
Er no. You've posted on quite a few topics, but none of them mentioning
this supposed "condition" of yours. All except the one that is, which you seemed
to have forgotten all about. Your only other post to this NewsGroup, in which
you claimed to be in a wheelchair.
And yet when I happened to mention that you were "confined to a
wheelchair", rather
than simply correct me and say " I only said I was *in* a wheelchair before", you'd
forgotten all about that previous post. You'd forgotten you'd ever made any previous
mention of wheelchairs at all. When presumably there would be one in the
room there beside you.

So, in your reality people who have health problems have to mention them
every time they post, or they are liars. And people who use wheelchairs
need to be "confined" to them, or they are liars.

Post by John Smith
You're not a very successful liar, are you ?

I don't get the impression that he is a liar at all.

Post by John Smith
As to your being a "benefit cheat". Why should anyone believe you're on benefits
at all ? Up until yesterday you'd only ever posted twice in this Newsgroup. So
that despite supposedly qualifying for these various benefits, benefits clearly
haven't played as big a part in your life as have questions about what to put
on your window frames. Or how to charge your sat-nav.
And yet for many people, benefits can be quite complicated and there are plenty
of questions they'd like to ask. And maybe experiences and advice they'd like
to share. But not you apparently.
Your only problems in life, the things you need to ask advice about, appear to involve
gardening tools, sat-navs, and what type of car polish to put on your window frames.

So, in your reality, sick people who claim benefits are "liars" unless
they post only about their ill-health and their benefit claims.

Post by John Smith
So much for your being a "benefit cheat". A supposed benefit "cheat" who's been
diagnosed with terminal cancer as can be easily verified by their current medical
records. As you claim to have been. How can that possibly be classed as "cheating"?
Don't you realise just how utterly stupid you sound ?
And please don't for one minute imagine that anyone would believe that you only ever
post as "Ben Short". And that you've only ever made just the dozen or so posts
to UseNet.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=group%3Auk.gov.
social-security+author%3AJohn+Smith+%***@onetel.net.uk%3E&btnG=Search&as
_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2010&as_drrb=b
&sitesearch=

A very long search string which may wrap in some newsreaders, but
basically it shows that you've never been here before under your current
posting identity, "John Smith".

Maybe you're in an unfamiliar group?

Alt.stalkers is thataway ----->


Clive

[Ben Short]

Post by Clive Martin
<SNIP>

Post by John Smith
Er no. You've posted on quite a few topics, but none of them mentioning
this supposed "condition" of yours. All except the one that is, which you seemed
to have forgotten all about. Your only other post to this NewsGroup, in which
you claimed to be in a wheelchair.
And yet when I happened to mention that you were "confined to a wheelchair", rather
than simply correct me and say " I only said I was *in* a wheelchair before", you'd
forgotten all about that previous post. You'd forgotten you'd ever made any previous
mention of wheelchairs at all. When presumably there would be one in the
room there beside you.

So, in your reality people who have health problems have to mention them
every time they post, or they are liars. And people who use wheelchairs
need to be "confined" to them, or they are liars.

Post by John Smith
You're not a very successful liar, are you ?

I don't get the impression that he is a liar at all.

Post by John Smith
As to your being a "benefit cheat". Why should anyone believe you're on benefits
at all ? Up until yesterday you'd only ever posted twice in this Newsgroup. So
that despite supposedly qualifying for these various benefits, benefits clearly
haven't played as big a part in your life as have questions about what to put
on your window frames. Or how to charge your sat-nav.
And yet for many people, benefits can be quite complicated and there are plenty
of questions they'd like to ask. And maybe experiences and advice they'd like
to share. But not you apparently.
Your only problems in life, the things you need to ask advice about, appear to involve
gardening tools, sat-navs, and what type of car polish to put on your window frames.

So, in your reality, sick people who claim benefits are "liars" unless
they post only about their ill-health and their benefit claims.

Post by John Smith
So much for your being a "benefit cheat". A supposed benefit "cheat" who's been
diagnosed with terminal cancer as can be easily verified by their current medical
records. As you claim to have been. How can that possibly be classed as "cheating"?
Don't you realise just how utterly stupid you sound ?
And please don't for one minute imagine that anyone would believe that you only ever
post as "Ben Short". And that you've only ever made just the dozen or so posts
to UseNet.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=group%3Auk.gov.
_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2010&as_drrb=b
&sitesearch=
A very long search string which may wrap in some newsreaders, but
basically it shows that you've never been here before under your current
posting identity, "John Smith".
Maybe you're in an unfamiliar group?
Alt.stalkers is thataway ----->
Clive
--
Clive Martin
my email address is cliveatcmartindotdemondotcodotuk

I had a broken arm once and I didn't post here asking for advice. I am such
a liar.

I also had the measles. Oh bugger forgot that one too

My posts date back to Feb when I asked for similar help getting the house
ready for my wife so she doesn't have to do it when I am gone. That though
doesn't count in this guys dream world. I shouldn't be thinking of my wife
and kids when I am dying, trying to help them out so they don't have house
jobs to do. I am so selfish I know.
I have offered to post my scan reports. That doesn't count either. Like I
have to justify myself to this guy.

Yup we're all liars because we don't ask on here for help.

Yep he has a massive 1 post to his name.

I asked for help and this is how nasty and bitter some folk can get, not all
granted. Everyone on benefits is a cheat. I mean the docs must have it wrong
I don't have Non Hodgkin's, perhaps I am just overly tired and my bones are
naturally achy

Thanks Clive, I sincerely appreciate your post

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
My posts date back to Feb when I asked for similar help getting the house
ready for my wife so she doesn't have to do it when I am gone.

Wrong.

Your posts date back to July last year, if you remember.

________

From: "Ben Short" <***@supanet.com>
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009

Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.

What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, money no object so to
speak. thanks

___________


That was when you broke the spade digging in the garden. Remember ?

When questioned about this, given your alleged condition, you replied that it was your
wife who in fact broke the spade.

So that in July 2009 you were asking for the name of some extra-strong spades.
Which your wife could use when digging the very hard soil in your garden without
breaking them.

Rather than getting in help. Despite money being no object, apprently.

So that in July of last year you were quite happy for your wife to break
her back digging your garden.

While in February of this year you were looking to get help to put some mastic on the
windows to "get the house ready for your wife when you were gone."




JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
My posts date back to Feb when I asked for similar help getting the house
ready for my wife so she doesn't have to do it when I am gone.

Wrong.
Your posts date back to July last year, if you remember.

So?

Post by John Smith
________
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, money no object so to
speak. thanks
___________
That was when you broke the spade digging in the garden. Remember ?
When questioned about this, given your alleged condition, you replied that it was your
wife who in fact broke the spade.
So that in July 2009 you were asking for the name of some extra-strong spades.
Which your wife could use when digging the very hard soil in your garden without
breaking them.
Rather than getting in help. Despite money being no object, apprently.
So that in July of last year you were quite happy for your wife to break
her back digging your garden.
While in February of this year you were looking to get help to put some mastic on the
windows to "get the house ready for your wife when you were gone."
JS

Where is the link please? To the wife breaking her back.

What exactly is your point here, if there is one. So what my wife loves to
garden. OMG I cannot believe you are having a go at that LOL SAD

[Ben Short]

Post by Clive Martin
<SNIP>

Post by John Smith
Er no. You've posted on quite a few topics, but none of them mentioning
this supposed "condition" of yours. All except the one that is, which you seemed
to have forgotten all about. Your only other post to this NewsGroup, in which
you claimed to be in a wheelchair.
And yet when I happened to mention that you were "confined to a wheelchair", rather
than simply correct me and say " I only said I was *in* a wheelchair before", you'd
forgotten all about that previous post. You'd forgotten you'd ever made any previous
mention of wheelchairs at all. When presumably there would be one in the
room there beside you.

So, in your reality people who have health problems have to mention them
every time they post, or they are liars. And people who use wheelchairs
need to be "confined" to them, or they are liars.

Post by John Smith
You're not a very successful liar, are you ?

I don't get the impression that he is a liar at all.

Post by John Smith
As to your being a "benefit cheat". Why should anyone believe you're on benefits
at all ? Up until yesterday you'd only ever posted twice in this Newsgroup. So
that despite supposedly qualifying for these various benefits, benefits clearly
haven't played as big a part in your life as have questions about what to put
on your window frames. Or how to charge your sat-nav.
And yet for many people, benefits can be quite complicated and there are plenty
of questions they'd like to ask. And maybe experiences and advice they'd like
to share. But not you apparently.
Your only problems in life, the things you need to ask advice about, appear to involve
gardening tools, sat-navs, and what type of car polish to put on your window frames.

So, in your reality, sick people who claim benefits are "liars" unless
they post only about their ill-health and their benefit claims.

Post by John Smith
So much for your being a "benefit cheat". A supposed benefit "cheat" who's been
diagnosed with terminal cancer as can be easily verified by their current medical
records. As you claim to have been. How can that possibly be classed as "cheating"?
Don't you realise just how utterly stupid you sound ?
And please don't for one minute imagine that anyone would believe that you only ever
post as "Ben Short". And that you've only ever made just the dozen or so posts
to UseNet.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=group%3Auk.gov.
_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=2010&as_drrb=b
&sitesearch=
A very long search string which may wrap in some newsreaders, but
basically it shows that you've never been here before under your current
posting identity, "John Smith".
Maybe you're in an unfamiliar group?
Alt.stalkers is thataway ----->
Clive
--
Clive Martin
my email address is cliveatcmartindotdemondotcodotuk

I had a broken arm once and I didn't post here asking for advice. I am such
a liar.

I also had the measles. Oh bugger forgot that one too

My posts date back to Feb when I asked for similar help getting the house
ready for my wife so she doesn't have to do it when I am gone. That though
doesn't count in this guys dream world. I shouldn't be thinking of my wife
and kids when I am dying, trying to help them out so they don't have house
jobs to do. I am so selfish I know.
I have offered to post my scan reports. That doesn't count either. Like I
have to justify myself to this guy.

Yup we're all liars because we don't ask on here for help.

Yep he has a massive 1 post to his name.

I asked for help and this is how nasty and bitter some folk can get, not all
granted. Everyone on benefits is a cheat. I mean the docs must have it wrong
I don't have Non Hodgkin's, perhaps I am just overly tired and my bones are
naturally achy

Thanks Clive, I sincerely appreciate your post

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children and
other relatives?

You just did.
_____________________________

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

_______________________________
JS

I went for a coffee today in town. £1.80, just thought you should know what
a disgrace I am. I mean I should have packed a flask or something. What was
I thinking. Thought I better had let you know.

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
I went for a coffee today in town. £1.80, just thought you should know what
a disgrace I am. I mean I should have packed a flask or something. What was
I thinking. Thought I better had let you know.

Taking a bit of a chance weren't you ?

______________________________________________________________________

"Ben Short" <***@supanet.com> wrote in message news:i0e45v$ikt$***@news.eternal-september.org...


" I am on 50mg per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. "

_______________________________________________________________________


You're ticking all the wrong boxes again I'm afraid.

The cost is immaterial. The fact is, that someone in such a position would
think very carefully about "going into town" for a coffee. And would most
certainly decide against.

You simply haven't got a clue.


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I went for a coffee today in town. £1.80, just thought you should know what
a disgrace I am. I mean I should have packed a flask or something. What was
I thinking. Thought I better had let you know.

Taking a bit of a chance weren't you ?

Yea I could have bumped into a right dickhead. Were you out today by any
chance?

Post by John Smith
______________________________________________________________________
" I am on 50mg per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. "
_______________________________________________________________________
You're ticking all the wrong boxes again I'm afraid.
The cost is immaterial. The fact is, that someone in such a position would
think very carefully about "going into town" for a coffee. And would most
certainly decide against.
You simply haven't got a clue.
JS

[Ben Short]

Bugger me. I forgot to tell you. I went for a paper today, 45p. yeah I know
what you're thinking. It isnt the cost. But strangely enought I felt OK. I
knew I had your reassuring warm wishes with me. You're probably right, a
journey of 50 yards can be frought with danger but somehow I made it back
and in one piece. Phew, thanks for the kind words of help about my last
coffee out, Oh the perils could be unspeakable. No stop it, really. I know
you think "I was taking a chance" but somehow Dunkirk sprang to mind and all
those brave soldiers and I made it and it's all thanks to you.

[John Smith]

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
I try not to give my real name out on Usenet because of knobheads.

So whose name exactly is going to be on this scan report ?



JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.
Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
I try not to give my real name out on Usenet because of knobheads.

So whose name exactly is going to be on this scan report ?
JS

yeah like your gonna get that. How many people with NHL do you know?

[Ben Short]

Ahh a dickhead...well lets see.


The fact I bought my wife some garden secateurs doesn't mean I am not ill
with cancer.

Then there's the shoes I cleaned, yeah I am not really ill, I mean ill
people don't need to look smart for consultants visits do they. Must mean I
am lying.

Oh now there's the fuse issue with the car. Yeah that must mean I don't have
cancer. I mean ill people don't change fuses in cars do they, what they do
it when the fuse blows they just stop using their cars.

Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children. That obviously means I don't have cancer silly me.

Just because you can search Usenet doesn't mean I am telling lies. I am
quite happy to copy my scan reports for you and post them to a webpage of
your choice.

If you knew anything at all about Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma you would quickly
realize how foolish your post was and how it has made you look. NHL is a
slow and painful death. I am stage 4 or 4, as it is both sides of my
diaphragm and now in my bones. But there again cause I went away and changes
a fuse and cleaned shoes It means I am OK doesn't it. What a moron.

Let me know the site and I will gladly post you my latest scan report
showing the 12 inch tumour on my stomach and the 7 inch one round my
Inferior vena cava.

Post by John Smith

Post by Ben Short
I get indefinite High Rate DLA. And I am on IS.
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Am Suicidal. I also have incurable cancer, have
just had Chemo and expecting more when the tumour grows back. I am on 50mg
per day of Morphine, am constantly asleep or in pain. Am sick, and having
had two lots of Pulmonary Emboli and now on permanent Warfarin to thin my
blood.
Would I be considered Fit For Work, given Monday I sleep all day, Tuesday
awake for perhaps 6 hours, in pain. Wednesday to Sun virtually the same
either asleep in pain or generally feeling very ill with cancer?
What do you honestly think?

...
Now let's see...
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: Spades
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009
Just bought some Felco secateurs and they are brilliant.
Now I need some really good quality spades, hoes etc. I bought some B&Q ones
and in my hard soil the spade broke first time.
What are the BEST spades, forks, hoes money can buy, money no object so to
speak. thanks
...
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Subject: Volvo V70 Fuse Keeps Blowing
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010
Well the problem is it keeps going. I used the lighter socket to power a
TomTom and it went. So the garage put another one in and I came to use the
TT again and it wouldn't charge it, then upon inspection I see its blown the
fuse again.
I am going to take it to the Corner Garage but wonder if anyone here could
shed any light on what may be wrong. We don't use the cigarette lighter at
all, we don't smoke. It gets used for the Tom Tom VERY occasionally, perhaps
twice a year.
There is no rust on the end of the socket although there is a tiny little
bit on the side wall of the socket, none on the lighter plug itself.
Thanks
...
Ben Short
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Date: Tue, 20 April 2010
Thanks all
Just got back off holiday and gave your suggestions a whirl.
If you remember the thread I asked about removing wax from leather shoes and
I have made a mistake putting them on. After several suggestions someone
mentioned White Spirit. So Sunday I bit the bullet and got a Microfibre and
white spirits and attacked them. After 4 tries I finally removed all the
wax. I then put them in the sink and washed them down trying to remove the
smell and left them out overnight. Today after 5 coats of brown polish they
look like new, they are just like they were when I bought them, only a
slight bit darker but they look great.
Just wanted to come back and thank you all for the help and advice you all
gave.
...
Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 Subject: Income Support
I am on Income Support and have been for a few years now. I also am on an
indefinite High Rate DLA and Mobility as I am in a wheelchair as I have
cancer which is incurable and is a constant cancer (non Hodgkin's lymphoma
low grade)
I have just undergone 6 months of intensive chemotherapy. I am ill daily,
am on anti coagulants, morphine for pain and my lymphomas are growing at a slow rate.
...
J S

[John Smith]

09.48

Post by Ben Short
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children.

21.46

Post by Ben Short
Do you think it very fair on your wife, given that she presumably
has to care full time for you and the children,
What has it got to do with you what is fair and what isnt fair on my wife?
She doesnt care for me full time so thats blown that theory hasnt it.

21.57

Post by Ben Short
Furthermore none of them publicised the potential seriousness
of their condition, for fear their children or other relatives
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children

22.58

Post by Ben Short
You just did.

23.10

Post by Ben Short
I do have children so fucking what. What THAT has to do with you I dont know.

What it has to do with anyone is this. You yourself brought up your children when
concocting the story of how you were able to take a holiday. When I mentioned your
wife you were quite happy to acknowlege her existence. And yet when I mentioned your
children you seem you have forgotten having mentined them before and were on
the point of denying having any at all.

Basically what you're doing is making up things to suit your present purpose.

And forgetting what lies you'd already told.

So that when I asked you about the holiday it suited your story to claim it was
"respite with the children".

However when I asked whether you weren't worried about your children finding out
as a result of your publicising your condition -

1. First you were on the point of denying having any children at all.

2. Second you admitted to having children - to cover the earlier lie - but claimed they
were old enough to know the truth

3. and now it transpires -

Post by Ben Short
I try not to give my real name out on Usenet because of knobheads.

So that even if you did have any children, and you really did have terminal cancer
there'd be no chance of them finding out anyway. Would there ? As you don't
post under your real name.


JS

[Ben Short]

Post by John Smith
09.48

Post by Ben Short
Oh and someone paid for me to go away for 5 days from a charity for respite
with the children.

21.46

Post by Ben Short
Do you think it very fair on your wife, given that she presumably
has to care full time for you and the children,
What has it got to do with you what is fair and what isnt fair on my wife?
She doesnt care for me full time so thats blown that theory hasnt it.

21.57

Post by Ben Short
Furthermore none of them publicised the potential seriousness
of their condition, for fear their children or other relatives
Everyone that is anyone knows, what makes you think I have children

22.58

Post by Ben Short
You just did.

23.10

Post by Ben Short
I do have children so fucking what. What THAT has to do with you I dont know.

What it has to do with anyone is this. You yourself brought up your children when
concocting the story of how you were able to take a holiday. When I mentioned your
wife you were quite happy to acknowlege her existence. And yet when I mentioned your
children you seem you have forgotten having mentined them before and were on
the point of denying having any at all.
Basically what you're doing is making up things to suit your present purpose.
And forgetting what lies you'd already told.
So that when I asked you about the holiday it suited your story to claim it was
"respite with the children".
However when I asked whether you weren't worried about your children finding out
as a result of your publicising your condition -
1. First you were on the point of denying having any children at all.

How do you know what I was on the point of denying. Assumption again

Post by John Smith
2. Second you admitted to having children - to cover the earlier lie - but claimed they
were old enough to know the truth

Yup they are

Post by John Smith
3. and now it transpires -

Post by Ben Short
I try not to give my real name out on Usenet because of knobheads.

So that even if you did have any children, and you really did have terminal cancer
there'd be no chance of them finding out anyway. Would there ? As you don't
post under your real name.

I dont post under my real name because of knobheads like you who stalk
innocent people and go trawling through their posts. Funnily enough I told
my children before you.

Post by John Smith
JS

[Ben Short]

Listen TWAT, Piss up a rope. You are not going to get another rise out of
me. My posts are there for everyone to see. I dont use my real name, do you
John? LOL. I cleaned my shoes, waxed the windows, went for a coffee, am
helping put in railway sleepers and ALL this is supposed to mean I am not
ill. OMG You sad little twat. Grow a cock and come and see me when you've
grown up. Just nice to see you shown up like this isnt it LOL.

You have made such a HUGE contribution to this NG havent
you.....er..........1 thread LOL.

BYW Were the people you work with terminal before or after you started
dealing with them.

Believe what you want cunt.

Last post from me to you. I dont intend to spend all my nights defending
what I do to a cockless shit for brains like you. Go get yourself laid. I'll
lend you the money if you want, after all you're gonna have to pay for it.

[Ben Short]

Hey dickless, what I should do is not tell the kids and just post a message
on Usenet. LMAO What a tosser!!!

[Ben Short]

Hey , were you just checking out if your "new" name would work when you
posted here?

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.test/browse_thread/thread/2bbd5f27b15dc647/c3652ac48ffc65d7?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=JS%40onetel.net.uk#c3652ac48ffc65d7

name name and name?

LOL. Ohhh I too can search Usenet